malachi wrote:Leveling is the wrong word.
Distribution is the correct term.
With any technique, all that matters is that you choose one that:
- allows you to finish your dosing with accuracy and consistency and repeatability
- allows you to create as near as possible to a consistent density bed of coffee
malachi wrote:Leveling is the wrong word.
Distribution is the correct term.
nick wrote: dosing is most important. Leveling is next, and tamp is last.
ThaRiddla wrote: I think someone on CoffeeGeek deemed it the "Intelligentsia Method" and it stuck.
ThaRiddla wrote:We started employing this method about 2 1/2-3 years ago. We wanted to find a methodology that would allow any Barista that was on shift to be able to switch with the Barista that was currently pulling shots with minimal change to the grind/delay in drink production.
I don't believe it provides a measurable difference in shots quality or taste. I've had amazing shots by our baristas using both methods in our training room at the Roasting Works and at our stores during a busy shift. Some of the best shots I've ever had (including shots of my own) were from Baristas at our stores when I just walked in to get a drink.aaronblanco wrote:do you think it provides a measurable difference in shot quality/consistency--both inter and intra barista--that can't be trained with just the hand/finger?
I don't think it takes any less or more time for the baristas at the stores. It's what they are used to, so they become highly proficient at it. It's true for whatever you do strange analogy:aaronblanco wrote:i think it's a great idea for razor thin consistency margins. seems like you would lose time and create extra steps (see nick's occam's razor post above) to pick up the bottle opener, do your thing with it, put it down, then pick up the tamper, etc.
maybe this is a minor time-adder of no consequence; or it may be one of those minor time-adders that adds up to an extra hour's work or whatever over the course of a day for a slight but not monumental improvement over the taste quality.
nick wrote:If you've got "hidden clumps" that need to be "repaired" in some way, you're already screwed.:
True, true could this be the same though process that says that only French Pressing your coffees is more hardcore?nick wrote:Great question, which I've wondered myself: if you look at the way things are done out there in the barista competition community, a finger is better than a "tool." When I saw Intelly and their "Chicago Chop," I struggled to think of a reason why a finger would be better than what they use... and I came up with nothing. Maybe it somehow looks more hardcore?
nick wrote:I'd love to see a distribution and leveling done with a tool during competition. There's no rule against it... why the hell not? Frankly, though I understand why they did it, I was a little sad that the Intelly Barista Team forwent their Choppers for the "traditional" finger-method.
Unless you're working the bar blindfolded and have headphones on, touch isn't the only sense you use when leveling. You are using eyes, ears and touch. Saying that a tool inhibits your ability to properly distribute and level is the same as saying that a chef shouldn't use their best/sharpest knife for chopping because it takes them a step away from what they're preparing. It's no more of a 'tool� for preparation than a tamper, grinder, portafilter, water filter, or espresso machine.Alistair Durie wrote:using your finger allows you to feel distribution and adjust your dosage on the fly. i'm not sure the tool would allow as much control over dosage (more chopping?), which would suggest an increase in grind adjustments. .
the barista reads the flow of their shots and adjusts accordingly... leveling is an important variable in controlling distribution and dosage.
ThaRiddla wrote: We wanted to find a methodology that would allow any Barista that was on shift to be able to switch with the Barista that was currently pulling shots with minimal change to the grind/delay in drink production. This is paramount with (often times) 5+ Baristas working at the same time.
onocoffee wrote:I think that equating the bar tool to a chef's knife is quite a bit misleading - except for the chopping action.
One cannot julienne a carrot with a bare finger while one can level and distribute with the same finger.
What is wrong with consistency?onocoffee wrote:Seems to me that the bar tool was an operational step to make front-line production smoother and more consistent from barista to barista.
In many ways, it's the same as training your crew to tamp the same and with the same pressure as everyone else - to reduce production delays and maintain consistency.
onocoffee wrote:In many ways, it's the same as training your crew to tamp the same and with the same pressure as everyone else
ThaRiddla wrote:onocoffee wrote:I think that equating the bar tool to a chef's knife is quite a bit misleading - except for the chopping action.
One cannot julienne a carrot with a bare finger while one can level and distribute with the same finger.
Perhaps it wasn't the best analogy.
(since I know you're a fan)
Does lighting a fine cigar with a lighter instead of a match make that cigar any less enjoyable or proper or "hardcore"?
You're thinking of a cigarette lighter that uses isobutane (the stinky stuff). Cigar lighters are designed to not impart those flavors due to using odorless butane or other gas and fatter, wider or even double flames that cover a broader area. Yes, sulferless matches or cedar strips are preferred by some, but lighters are also a favorite of many.Jasonian wrote:Absolutely. A lighter imparts the flavor of the gas into the cigar. A match.. well, once the sulfur tip burns down, all that's burning is wood, which is a bit closer to a burning tobacco leaf in flavor. Much less foreign flavor is imparted to the cigar.
ThaRiddla wrote:You're thinking of a cigarette lighter that uses isobutane (the stinky stuff). Cigar lighters are designed to not impart those flavors due to using odorless butane or other gas and fatter, wider or even double flames that cover a broader area. Yes, sulferless matches or cedar strips are preferred by some, but lighters are also a favorite of many.Jasonian wrote:Absolutely. A lighter imparts the flavor of the gas into the cigar. A match.. well, once the sulfur tip burns down, all that's burning is wood, which is a bit closer to a burning tobacco leaf in flavor. Much less foreign flavor is imparted to the cigar.
ThaRiddla wrote:I mean, I've gotten knocked for 'not having enough coffee in my portafilter� when I know there was a screw depression in the puck on every shot perhaps that's another thread.
barry wrote:... when the brew cycle stops, and the solenoid pops to 'vent', the puck quite literally puffs up, often impacting upon the screen & screw. this is the "swelling" that so many people think occurs during brewing... anyway, if you have 14 grams in the basket, you'll get a screw impression; if you have 18 grams in the basket, you'll get a screw impression...
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