aaronblanco wrote:... but for the large majority of consumers a mark such as "la golondrina" will evoke one thing and one thing only: that la golondrina is an actual place where ccc gets the coffee that is in the bag with that label. heck, had i not known any of what you just said, i would've thought it was a single farm/coop, myself....
specifically though, i'm wondering why it is not more clearly indicated in any of the descriptors or promotional materials such as the labels (or the website, where space is not an issue) that this is, as you call it, a "roaster's mark" or something--anything--that would represent this as from a coop, mill, etc... basically, any hint whatsoever that this is something other than packaging and marketing designed to look very much like a single farm. surely it wouldn't kill the design to add something like that somewhere on a ribbon or on a clour behind the bird or something. [laughing at myself for that!] ]
La Golondrina
Cauca, Colombia
Our unique La Golondrina project gives us direct access to the finest small farms in Cauca, southern Colombia, allowing us to handpick incredible coffees from the countries most talented and dedicated farmers. You will be amazed with the result " layers upon layers of sweet caramel and chocolate, along with a clean, delicate fruitiness reminiscent of black cherry, as well as a subtle wininess. This is what Colombian coffee is meant to be. Enjoy it while it lasts, we only have a limited amount until next year's crop.
geoff watts wrote:I won't say much at the moment....
geoff watts wrote:Take Flecha Roja, for example--there are more than 750 farmers who contribute to the cooperative and the mill in Tarrazu, and the average size of each farm is 2 hectares. geoff
aaronblanco wrote:couldn't the exact thing be achieved by sticking with "Costa Rica Tarrazu"
tonx wrote:aaronblanco wrote:couldn't the exact thing be achieved by sticking with "Costa Rica Tarrazu"
Not really.
It would be a shame to go through the work to develop and assemble what are very often truly unparalleled coffees only to give them the same name as something in Millstone or SBUX's product line. "Tarrazu", "Huehuetenango", "Harrar", "Sidamo" are generic terms when you start to look at the variety and breadth of quality available under those monikers. It would be a disservice to all the hard work to not acknowledge the uniqueness of these programs and the coffees that emerge from them.
jimmy.o wrote:A question this raises for me, is why even blend the coffees which form Inmortales together? They are described touted as being the best from 150 different farms, so why not keep those farmer's work separate (if logistically possible!) and market them as limited edition runs, and when they sell out, they sell out? From what I understand, relative scarcity in microlot coffee is a good thing for the farmer. Limiting the supply (so long as it cups high) helps fetch a better price, does it not?
jimmy.o wrote:so why not keep those farmer's work separate (if logistically possible!) and market them as limited edition runs, and when they sell out, they sell out?
tonx wrote:To trot out the wine analogy, should a vintner refer to his Cabernet as simply "Napa Valley Cab" if the grapes came from multiple small growers rather than a single vinyard?
my point is that a conscientious roaster retailer should label the coffee as close to the individual farm as is known/possible/realistic. for many that would be all the smallholders, say, in tarrazu. (just because a giant chain uses that geographic name doesn't make it a bad word...and we should recognize that to some, intelligentsia could be considered a "chain.") maybe it's the name of their coop. is it too cumbersome/loathsome to call your coffee something like (as a made up name example), "costa rica tarrazu, perro grande coop?" perhaps there are forty smallholders who are part of that coop. even though you may not use all forty's crop in your coffee, if you're using a majority of those coffees you're not being shady to use that coop name; it's simply the smallest denomination you can logically and transparently use and still be more detailed than, "cheese from holland."
i guess another angle is considering the smallholders themselves. i'd sure like to have the name of my seven hectares on some american company's coffee bag. but for sure i would be mystified to know that all my hard work is being represented by some fictitious name that somebody thinks sounds better than my real name.
even if you pay me lots of money, i'd still prefer you (at least try to) call me by my own name. it seems to me to help make this concept of direct trade, well, more direct.
jimmy.o wrote:A question this raises for me, is why even blend the coffees which form Inmortales together? They are described touted as being the best from 150 different farms, so why not keep those farmer's work separate (if logistically possible!) and market them as limited edition runs, and when they sell out, they sell out? From what I understand, relative scarcity in microlot coffee is a good thing for the farmer. Limiting the supply (so long as it cups high) helps fetch a better price, does it not?
jimmy.o wrote:I don't think any of the coffees at Intelly are a crapshoot, nor would I ever expect this from them.
There is a story to be told of the tempests that occur when people debate what is, and what is not Tarrazu. The short version is this " Tarrazu can at once be defined by the geo-political border that is Tarrazu county, by the ICAFE designation of what is a Tarrazu finca, and by the micro-climate that exists within a particularly mountainous region of Costa Rica that produces very hard coffee beans with distinctly spicy, aromatic qualities and bell-like brightness. I'm running with the latter of these three definitions, and I'm willing to let ICAFE and the SCAA sort out the rest.
-- me, from an old article on bloggle.com
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