The FT base price is an attempt to bring some stability to a market whose volatility has nothing to do with supply and demand.
Where's the incentive for the farmer to control the cost of production? Where's the quality incentive to balance the control over costs with the production of a particular quality? Does "sustainable" have different definitions over time? And ultimately what motivates companies to participate in any of this?Peter G wrote:The real deal is to figure out what REAL costs of production are, on a farmer-to-farmer basis, and commit to paying prices above that. The companies that are doing real work in financial sustainability in coffee are focusing their energy on that instead of worrying about base prices....
Robert Goble wrote:Where's the incentive for the farmer to control the cost of production?
Robert Goble wrote: Where's the quality incentive to balance the control over costs with the production of a particular quality?
Robert Goble wrote:Does "sustainable" have different definitions over time?
Robert Goble wrote:And ultimately what motivates companies to participate in any of this?
Brent wrote:The idea of shifting from producing coffee to another product is an interesting argument, and assumes that the ability of the producer is there to make a switch in production. If the lead time to switch to say cocao is 3 years, the assumption is that the farmer has the resources to wait three years for an income from the new crop.
Plainly, I would assert, most coffee farmers are not in this position.
Mark Prince wrote:Brent wrote:The idea of shifting from producing coffee to another product is an interesting argument, and assumes that the ability of the producer is there to make a switch in production. If the lead time to switch to say cocao is 3 years, the assumption is that the farmer has the resources to wait three years for an income from the new crop.
Plainly, I would assert, most coffee farmers are not in this position.
Just a quick hit and run comment since it's so bloody late (and the stuff I'm working on is no where near done);
The thing is, they're not always switching to long-lead time crops. In Ethiopia, for eg, during the height of the most recent coffee crisis, they were switching over to quat (chat?) production, which IIRC, is a one season conversion. In Colombia, Peru, parts of the Andes, etc, the obvious switch is to coca plants for cocaine production, with (again, IIRC) a 1 season start, with 4-6 harvests a year.
Mark
IanClark wrote:I am inclined to agree with some parts of the article, but disagree with the two primary assumptions of the author: 1) that Fair Trade encourages overproduction and 2) that it provides a harmful disinsentive to resource reallocation.
I see FT as a charity or subsidy, a band-aid that is there to help those who need it most who have NO BETTER alternative. I think it does this quite well so long as demand for FT doesn't disappear leaving farmers with a product that may be worth less than when they first connected with FT.
Mark Prince wrote:valid points on switching to coca and qat
Mark
Demian L wrote:
While quality standards have never been the purview of FLO standards, the system itself empowers co-ops to invest in quality. We're also working with other organizations such as USAID, Root Capital, and private foundations to develop projects related to quality. Also be on the lookout for news on one of our projects in Brazil later this year-I'll be blogging it on Barista Exchange so keep your eyes peeled...
Demian L wrote:p.s. the average price for FTC coffee sold to the USA in 2007 was $1.59/lb, and $1.71/lb if you exclude Peru and Brazil. the number of co-ops selling 100% of inventory through FT is increasing, with most co-ops doing so in Latin America. many coffee co-ops are now producing other FLO certified products-e.g. honey at UDEPOM in Chiapas, cocoa in Peru, spices in Costa Rica.
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